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The Lines Are Drawn [Sep. 24th, 2005|07:03 am]
Galactica Vipers

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[alryssa]
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Guh.



From the get-go, the camps are staked out and trenches are dug. It seems... almost cliché. The softer, more adaptable Galactica versus the "hardline military" Pegasus. We're meant to hate them almost right off the bat, and I really detest that. I also detest the age-old "Queen Bitch" mentality they give Admiral Cain. In the original, yes, Cain was a man, but he was also a Commander like Adama - this didn't give him authority over him. They've elevated Cain to Admiral status, it seems, just to be that extra thorn in Adama's side - to more effectively emasculate him and build up our "support" for the Galactica, even when Tyrol and Helo end up killing one of their officers. Nothing like the threat of losing control of the fleet to stir things up, right?

Pegasus and her crew have already lost 700 of their shipmates. Their adherence to military code has been all that's kept them alive. In stark contrast, Galactica has turned into the protector of an entire fleet of civilians. Originally, Adama wanted to go and ram the Battlestar down a basestar's throat. Only Roslin's pleas for them to preserve what few lives were left were what convinced him to turn around and get the hell away from the Colonies.

It's a bad move by the writer (ironically, a woman. Perhaps you're overcompensating just a *little*, lady?) of this episode. I wish TV writers would stop with this metaphorical penis-waving whenever strong female military characters come into the picture, turning them into hardasses who are more intolerant and inflexible than any of the men. Amanda Tapping had to deal with this in the early seasons of Stargate, as well.

This example of a court martial being "suddenly" over is another bad plot device to simply get the two Battlestar commanders at each other's throats.

Surely, if the chain of command is still in effect... wouldn't Roslin, as President, be able to order the execution of Tyrol and Helo to be halted?

Sigh.
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[User Picture]From: lyssie
2005-09-24 12:53 pm (UTC)
er. Cain could have been a man and done the same thing.
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[User Picture]From: alryssa
2005-09-24 04:00 pm (UTC)
And it still would have been stupidly overdone.
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[User Picture]From: quietdarkness
2005-09-25 03:34 am (UTC)
Not to mention trite, sloppy and hastily conceived, no matter what the gender. I expected so much more from these writers.
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[User Picture]From: windbeliever
2005-09-24 01:04 pm (UTC)
Surely, if the chain of command is still in effect... wouldn't Roslin, as President, be able to order the execution of Tyrol and Helo to be halted?

Very doubtful. Because, remember when the President and Commander Adama were in the corridor talking about Admiral Cain? Roslin commented that Cain wasn't even returning her calls...

Cain has been superbitch since the destruction of the colonies. So, I doubt she'd give up so much authority on her ship to Roslin. Her comments about the President have been less than stellar, "the secretary of education?" Cain doesn't have any respect for the woman, and would not take orders from President Roslin. Nor would she ever give any. Cain doesn't think a school teacher has any competence for command. Which, ironically, is what Cain herself is greatly lacking.
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[User Picture]From: alryssa
2005-09-24 03:07 pm (UTC)
She's competent - overly so. If she weren't, Pegasus and her crew wouldn't still be *alive*.

However... they're making her just a teensy bit Over the Top Ice Bitch Queen, which irks me to the extreme, with the subtext of "You can only be a high-ranking female officer if you're even more manlier than the men".



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[User Picture]From: windbeliever
2005-09-24 03:43 pm (UTC)
Shooting her XO (whom she's known and served with for a long time) in the head for disobeying an order doesn't strike me as competent; especially when she'd lost over 700 souls. When you're short handed, you ignore your trigger finger.

As for the "manlier than the men" part, maybe she's an overtly masculine woman. Her mother could have died when she was born, had no feminine role-models, and her father served in the Colonial Military since she was tiny. So, the life of an officer -- rules and regulations -- is all she's ever known.
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[User Picture]From: alryssa
2005-09-24 03:55 pm (UTC)
Shooting her XO (whom she's known and served with for a long time) in the head for disobeying an order doesn't strike me as competent

Neither does Adama ordering a couple of Vipers to shoot a fellow Colonial ship into oblivion. Like he says himself - it's context. Is it any less sane for him to order a bunch of Marines over there to pull out his men? One of whom - albeit accidentally - has killed someone?

Starbuck is arguably overtly masculine by most 'feminine' standards, but she's well-rounded enough to not be obnoxious. I'm not going to excuse poor writing and characterisation by making up in-character excuses. Men shouldn't be excused assholish behaviour; and in the spirit of equality, neither should women.
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[User Picture]From: windbeliever
2005-09-24 04:08 pm (UTC)
My competence comparison was between her and President Roslin. Not Commander Adama and Admiral Cain...

I'm not going to excuse poor writing and characterisation by making up in-character excuses.

As you shouldn't. However, you also must realize that Cain is a foil character (a character who emphasizes the traits of a main character, by comparison or contrast). What possible effects could giving this character redeemable traits have? She's the bad guy (or gal) and won't last very long on the show's track time. So, humanizing an inhumane super bitch really has no purpose.

I do, however, think that they should have humanized the Pegasus crew a bit more. The only ones to be considered non-dick material were the two XOs (the dead & living one). Then again, we haven't seen enough of them to brand them all pawn-scum.

It'll make for good future story telling when we see how the Pegasus crew deals with Commander Adama being in command.
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[User Picture]From: conuly
2005-09-24 05:13 pm (UTC)
Surely, if the chain of command is still in effect... wouldn't Roslin, as President, be able to order the execution of Tyrol and Helo to be halted?

Except that while Admiral Ro talks a good talk, she's not really that great with the concept of the chain of command. She has no respect for Roslin, and would probably follow any orders from her with a statement that she doesn't take orders from schoolteachers. She's used to being in charge.
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